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pkiula
2
Dec 2, 2019
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Horrid fit, ordinary sound
Finally received these. One month taken for shipping. Clunky buggers, even bigger and block-styled than the other models. How does one hold this rubbish in ear for hours? Clearly it doesn’t achieve much anyway because the sound is ordinary. Even with some break in (twenty hours or so) its terrible sound. Bass is not authentic at all. Clarity is confused with sibilants. If it sits in the ear at all, it’s not worth it at all. Waste of money.
Recommends this product? No
Qwervy
464
Dec 20, 2019
pkiulaEar-tip fit issue?
pkiula
2
Dec 20, 2019
QwervyNot really. Have tried spinfit with various flanges and at least one of those in one size will work. The M seals my ears the best. But it’s uncomfortable for long hearing cycles (I listen to music for hours), and the sound isn’t great shakes whether I tried silicon or foam tips. Comply Pro is better than the NewBee that another user here recommended. But the audio quality is “amazing for 25 bucks”, which isn’t saying much.
Qwervy
464
Dec 20, 2019
pkiulahmm... what are your current favourite iems? ive been meaning to try some kz's out of curiosity or tfz's
pkiula
2
Dec 21, 2019
QwervyIf we leave the likes of Campfire, or Final Audio, or Onkyo out of the picture, and focus on the KZ price range, I think no-fuss earphones like NAD (Viso HP20) or even Sony’s h.ear in canal “high res” option (MDR-EX750AP) sound pretty decent without the dramatic chunky sized earbuds. The sound signature is clear and sharp with crisp bass. Either can be had for 40 to 65 bucks.
Qwervy
464
Dec 21, 2019
pkiulawho said anything about leaving the likes of campfire and final audio? what do you have lmao? I've also been wanting to get my hands on some Final Audio IEMS do you recommend anything? best price to performance preferably.
pkiula
2
Dec 21, 2019
QwervyThen we are in the wrong thread :) I think you’ll like NAD. For Final Audio it gets interesting for me at E5000. Rest are all very clear and nuanced but lack depth on lower frequencies.
Qwervy
464
Dec 21, 2019
pkiulaTo be completely honest I haven't heard of NAD. can you describe the sound? I like the sound of Grado SR80e's as my current favourite sound on a budget. Also like Mee audio p1's, Prefer warm and natural with good timbre and transparency.
pkiula
2
Dec 22, 2019
QwervyGrados are excellent except they’re a bit weighed in on the lower and mid. I don’t like open backs so they’re generally not my thing. If you like this signature and are looking for a bang for buck earphone to rag daily for activities, NAD will be a good one. As hard as it is to describe sound, I’d say you’ll find the bass authoritative (unlike KZ which I find mostly muddy-ish; not quite boomy like Beats which would be worse, but inorganic), while on the higher end there’s plenty of detail, a warm sense of delicacy, and the kind of allround coherence you’d want from a go-to regular earphone. Personally I find that having heard a lot of signatures I keep going back to Onkyo E700M, which has sadly been discontinued and their 900 series is very refined but too skewed to higher frequencies—perhaps for classical and jazz aficionados. I had got it for 100 bucks at the SFO airport from a vending machine, and it could easily match my Andromeda from campfire. (I know how sacrilegious that sounds.)
Qwervy
464
Dec 23, 2019
pkiulaI actually think that Grados arent that waited in the lows, mid emphasis I agree with but due to a roll off in the lower lows. I actually think that Grados are slightly mid and high-mid biased, lows are tasteful and highs are airy (which I love and which is something that is specific to open backs which is probably what you dont like. Airy highs also reduces the presence of the highs and therefore how much perceived amount of highs there are). The only real gripes I have with my Grado's apart from build and practicality are the lack of sub-bass extension and some sound-stage, cant have everything for 100 dollars through haha. Ill definitely have a look into NAD (still not really sure why they are called that), do you have any other recommendations? (below 200)
pkiula
2
Dec 23, 2019
QwervyWell 200 bucks is a very decent budget nowadays. From Denon AH-C820 yo the surprisingly rich EarStudio HE100.. loads of options. It depends on which signature works for which kind of music. I have an eclectic range from Rene Aubrey’s detailed instrumentals to Laura Fygi to Daft Punk to Dire Straits to Rob Zombie. All of my 15 or so earphones are good for some more than others, but so far — and this is just me — the Onkyo was the only that excelled in everything.
Qwervy
464
Dec 23, 2019
pkiulaI see, thanks. What are the alternatives to the Onkyo that you can get, out of curiosity. You did say that the 900 series was to treble forward.
pkiula
2
Dec 23, 2019
QwervyYou mean from Onkyo? Not sure. I don’t think there’s anything in their lineup that’s of interest. I prefer in-ear as over the head stuff goofs up my hair and is too large to carry around. In the in-ear stuff the ones I’ve listed above are the ones I know of. Final Audio e5000...Denon 820...NAD H20....EarStudio HE100. And if you can get a second hand Onkyo E700M that’s stellar — avoid the fakes on eBay that sell for 30 bucks or so. Good luck.
pkiula
2
Dec 24, 2019
QwervyI've been told by Onkyo Japan that if I was a huge fan of E700M, I'll like the Pioneer SE-CH9's rendition. Hard to find on Amazon in these parts of the world, so will order from Amazon JP: https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%91%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AA%E3%83%8B%E3%82%A2-Pioneer-SE-CH9T-SE-CH9T-K-%E3%80%90%E5%9B%BD%E5%86%85%E6%AD%A3%E8%A6%8F%E5%93%81%E3%80%91/dp/B06XGRVNKB/
pkiula
2
Dec 25, 2019
QwervyGreat find 👍🏼👍🏼
pkiula
2
Dec 27, 2019
QwervyI'd also add to this list: BQEYZ Spring1 Flagship.
Qwervy
464
Dec 27, 2019
pkiulahuh, cool. What a strange driver config.
Imnew
1
Apr 1, 2020
pkiulaHey I saw your recommendation of the e700ms and was really interested in them. However because I don’t really trust eBay and I saw the Phillips pro6305. I was wondering if you have had experience with them. Have you?
pkiula
2
Apr 1, 2020
ImnewSome thoughts:
  • eBay has mostly fake Onkyos. Do not buy from there.
  • I would never touch anything Phillips: poor quality and muddy sound. I'm surprised you mention it as an alternative to E700.
  • Onkyo E700 is one of the best IEMs I've ever used, I'm surprised I bought it at the price I did. On Amazon.com I saw that the E700 page recommended "new model", which is actually the Pioneer SE-CH9T (because both Onkyo and Pioneer now have the same owner: some Hong Kong company). I also own this Pioneer in-ear ones now, it has more bass than E700 and is quite clear, but somehow lacks a bit of the warmth of E700m. I'd say it comes very close to E700M, and this is what I would recommend.
Hope this helps.
Imnew
1
Apr 1, 2020
pkiulaThis helps immensely! As my name implies I know nothing about the audiophile world and by extension the do’s and donts but am very interested in getting into it. Thanks a ton for your time!
pkiula
2
Apr 1, 2020
ImnewI wonder if I'm an "audiophile" either, but I've experimented a lot in life and spent way more money than should be allowed :) One discovers "sound signatures" for oneself. I like the sound in general of Scandinavian makers like Dynaudio or Hegel, but can mostly afford British ones like KEF or Monitor Audio. That's for speakers. Once you get accustomed to that kind of sound, the earphones also need to match. I think the Japanese makers like Onkyo, Final Audio (specialists in only earphones), or Pioneer -- they suck at Marketing, but they're stellar in sound quality and simple production quality. This is good for customers like us :)
Qwervy
464
Apr 1, 2020
pkiulaActually, Final Audio makes headphones as well just so you know :)
pkiula
2
Apr 1, 2020
QwervyYes I include that in the earphones (not just in-ear), which is to signify that they don’t make speakers proper. Thanks :)
Qwervy
464
Apr 2, 2020
pkiulaAh, sorry my misunderstanding
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