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First off, what's up with that kerning? Why do the 'SC' and 'AR' need to be bunched up so tight, whereas the middle letters 'IMIT' are as widely dispersed as a fart in an elevator?
Second, they really could have gone for a more interesting font. It looks like some variant of Arial to me, which is the preferred font for your resume if you want it to blend in with all the other resumes and never be spotted by a hiring manager ever.
Not the first time I've noticed this with Bestech, and a real shame cause their designs and materials look nice otherwise.
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Bestech BG05 "Scimitar" G-10 Series
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Bestech BG05 "Scimitar" G-10 Series
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Shaped like a scimitar with its trailing point and broad tip, this Bestech folder is just as well off slicing as it is piercing. The blade is made from D2 for toughness across a wide range of tasks Read More
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keyboard_arrow_downHatuletoh
850
Feb 28, 2018
sir_puffs_alotI lost a lot of stuff when I was a Knight of the Bong Table, good Sir Puffs. Fortunately in those days, I spent my disposable coin collecting glass rather than steel, which is harder to transport and therefore harder to lose, though I still did a couple times. Now I have the thaumaturgic recall powers of a Sobriety Mage but even still manage to misplace knives, although never permanently (knock on wood) thus far. I can't imagine trying to keep track of my knife collection were I yet Dank Knight.
And no aspersions did I mean to cast upon you for membership in the Order of the Green Bud. Simply musing and reminiscing about its effects.
And no aspersions did I mean to cast upon you for membership in the Order of the Green Bud. Simply musing and reminiscing about its effects.
Daisy_Cutter
1288
Nov 19, 2017
First off, what's up with that kerning? Why do the 'SC' and 'AR' need to be bunched up so tight, whereas the middle letters 'IMIT' are as widely dispersed as a fart in an elevator?
Second, they really could have gone for a more interesting font. It looks like some variant of Arial to me, which is the preferred font for your resume if you want it to blend in with all the other resumes and never be spotted by a hiring manager ever.
Not the first time I've noticed this with Bestech, and a real shame cause their designs and materials look nice otherwise.
Daisy_Cutter
1288
Nov 19, 2017
Sure, good spot. In fact, that's probably exactly what happened here.
IMHO though, proper kerning means not using a monospace font. I respect your opinion, but I don't personally think it's aesthetically pleasing and I suspect neither do a bunch of people considering that monospace fonts aren't exactly popular.
IMHO though, proper kerning means not using a monospace font. I respect your opinion, but I don't personally think it's aesthetically pleasing and I suspect neither do a bunch of people considering that monospace fonts aren't exactly popular.
awk
1600
Nov 19, 2017
Daisy_CutterAh, I've noticed this too. The Scimitar text reminds me of the Roman characters included in CJK fonts, which are usually monospaced (so they line up with the other characters) but were not designed to be used that way, so they have this odd spaced out look. Sometimes you will see packaging from China written entirely like this.
Bestech seems to use different typefaces on different knives. They also experiment with different logo treatment and position. They also switch the pivot screw from one side to the other and stuff like that. I assume they are figuring this all out as they go along.
Another one that bugged me is the "O" in SWORDFISH, it looks like the zero below it and I always think "SW0RDF1SH" when I see it. Maybe it's just the narrow font (which is not monospaced this time, hmm).
While we're on the subject the logo on my Starfighter is slightly crooked and barely fits. They should take the text off the logo and make it a little bigger and position it a little more carefully. Or put it lower like the other Bestechs. (I should also note the jimping on the thumb ramp is not cut quite perpendicular to the spine. You can't see that here but it's hard to unsee once you do. Details, details...)
Someone should really do a video on layout and typography for knife designers. Then maybe we can avoid sadness like this:
While we're on the subject the logo on my Starfighter is slightly crooked and barely fits. They should take the text off the logo and make it a little bigger and position it a little more carefully. Or put it lower like the other Bestechs. (I should also note the jimping on the thumb ramp is not cut quite perpendicular to the spine. You can't see that here but it's hard to unsee once you do. Details, details...)
Someone should really do a video on layout and typography for knife designers. Then maybe we can avoid sadness like this:
Kavik
5531
Apr 29, 2018
(EDIT : see updated comments in the review section. Leaving this message here for posterity, but there are a couple updates over there)
Green Scimitar arrived today. Another well built bestech, with some praise and some complaints
Pros: -Finally there's a D shaped cutout in the opposite liner to catch the D shaped pivot pin and keep it straight! -This knife is super comfortable in the hand -the deep carry clip is a very nice change from the other Bestechs I have -I like the standoffs on this one, as opposed to the backspacer option. Either are fine, but I like the looks of this option on this knife -blade centers perfectly, action is smooth, practically drops shut after cleaning and re-oiling (with a caveat to be discussed in the complaints below) -shaving sharp out of the box, nice even grinds
Cons: -spine on this one is very sharp, especially at the points of the groove, gonna need to hit it with some sandpaper -sharp edges on the G10 too, towards the inside of the knife. Not a big deal, but you can feel it on your finger tip when you push the flipper. Might ease that a bit too -we're back to the plastic cages for the bearings again. I really think their metal caged ones move a bit smoother. -the liners on this one are made of some cheap ass metal, nothing like the thick, polished stainless on the Swordfish and the Thorn. Makes sense, saves money, since these liners are hidden on this one....but feels cheaper for the lock portion Interesting side note, not sure if it makes a difference one way or another, but with the thinner liners the bearings are actually recessed into the blade on this one, instead of into the liners like on the others (see disassembly pic below) -Detent is WEAK on this one :( Strong enough that the flipper works fine, but weak enough to easily shake open...which is a problem for carrying around here. Could this be related to the weaker steel liner/lockbar? Or is this purely a function of the detent ball/hole? Anyone know? I tried bending the lockbar out a bit, but didn't seem to make a difference.
Disassembled :
All in all, it's a nice knife, and I'm glad to own it, but more than a little disappointed that I finally have a bestech with a nice deep carry clip, but I can't legally carry it with the "gravity assist" laws here :( P. S.
Is there any rhyme or reason behind which drops have options for reviews and such only have discussions still?
Green Scimitar arrived today. Another well built bestech, with some praise and some complaints
Pros: -Finally there's a D shaped cutout in the opposite liner to catch the D shaped pivot pin and keep it straight! -This knife is super comfortable in the hand -the deep carry clip is a very nice change from the other Bestechs I have -I like the standoffs on this one, as opposed to the backspacer option. Either are fine, but I like the looks of this option on this knife -blade centers perfectly, action is smooth, practically drops shut after cleaning and re-oiling (with a caveat to be discussed in the complaints below) -shaving sharp out of the box, nice even grinds
Cons: -spine on this one is very sharp, especially at the points of the groove, gonna need to hit it with some sandpaper -sharp edges on the G10 too, towards the inside of the knife. Not a big deal, but you can feel it on your finger tip when you push the flipper. Might ease that a bit too -we're back to the plastic cages for the bearings again. I really think their metal caged ones move a bit smoother. -the liners on this one are made of some cheap ass metal, nothing like the thick, polished stainless on the Swordfish and the Thorn. Makes sense, saves money, since these liners are hidden on this one....but feels cheaper for the lock portion Interesting side note, not sure if it makes a difference one way or another, but with the thinner liners the bearings are actually recessed into the blade on this one, instead of into the liners like on the others (see disassembly pic below) -Detent is WEAK on this one :( Strong enough that the flipper works fine, but weak enough to easily shake open...which is a problem for carrying around here. Could this be related to the weaker steel liner/lockbar? Or is this purely a function of the detent ball/hole? Anyone know? I tried bending the lockbar out a bit, but didn't seem to make a difference.
Disassembled :
All in all, it's a nice knife, and I'm glad to own it, but more than a little disappointed that I finally have a bestech with a nice deep carry clip, but I can't legally carry it with the "gravity assist" laws here :( P. S.
Is there any rhyme or reason behind which drops have options for reviews and such only have discussions still?
Kavik
5531
Jun 2, 2018
Yeah, i know that can play a part, but I haven't yet tried adjusting a detent hole, I need to look into what's involved in troubleshooting/correcting if that's what's causing it
Kavik
5531
Jun 5, 2018
Played with it again today, still no luck.
Adjusted the lockbar tension even further, over tightened the pivot pin... Didn't help. Made the action worse but didn't stop it from being able to shake open.
The detent ball appears to be fully seated, no light gets through around it, so it seems the losckbar is fully against the blade when shut, detent ball completely in the hole. To double check this I even removed the stop pin and reassembled, allowing some overtravel when closing the blade, in case it was stopping before the ball fully reached its spot. Same results. Definitely fully in the hole, could even feel a tiny bit of wiggle room in there if i pushed it past the natural stop, and still shakes open.
I'd say that's telling me the issue isn't with the placement or depth of the hole. And the lockbar tension can't be increased any further...... So, I'm at a loss 😞
The detent ball appears to be fully seated, no light gets through around it, so it seems the losckbar is fully against the blade when shut, detent ball completely in the hole. To double check this I even removed the stop pin and reassembled, allowing some overtravel when closing the blade, in case it was stopping before the ball fully reached its spot. Same results. Definitely fully in the hole, could even feel a tiny bit of wiggle room in there if i pushed it past the natural stop, and still shakes open.
I'd say that's telling me the issue isn't with the placement or depth of the hole. And the lockbar tension can't be increased any further...... So, I'm at a loss 😞
CjUSM22
1
Feb 8, 2018
This is my first buy on massdrop and will more than likely be my last. I just got an email with confirmation of my purchase and says shipping is expected to be March 21st? Yea screw this. Didn’t save that much money.
kauboy
127
Feb 20, 2018
CjUSM22Since this is still going on... apparently, I'm happy to report that I got my shipping notification yesterday! (02/19) It should ship out today, and since it says it's coming from New Jersey, I should have it well before March. Like I said, you shouldn't worry too much about the estimated ship dates. They *can* be accurate, but more often than not, your items ships much sooner.
wdennis
24
Oct 15, 2018
I elected to sell this knife to someone who appreciated it more than myself. No question, it opened and closed as advertised—-oops, I mean the action was good. And, no question, the production was also good—-oops again, I mean the fit and finish were well done. The knife was sharp too, but I’ve come to expect that from these knife thingees, especially one “right out of the box” since I haven’t used it yet.
The problem as I saw it started with the so-called “scimitar“ blade. This trailing point is barely able to be described as canting upwards, much less as a scimitar blade. Also, my unfortunate choice of beige handle scales really watered down all knifey visual thunder. Yeah, it was pointy. Yeah, it was sharp and more than capable of cutting the careless finger, but the soul of the knife, that innate capacity for murder found in almost any knife, was missing. For myself, the final insult was the usual blade billboarding. Is it really necessary to have manufacturer graffiti all over the damn knife? It absolutely calls to mind some big car or truck with meaningless product statements, or supposedly relevant numbers on the trunk or doors that apparently speaks volumes to guys with penis issues. But I digress. A bit of blade sterilization is in order, like a Praxis or Baklash. Those are good looks. So what do I want for $50? I truely don’t know most of the time, but I do know it isn’t boring, bland, or making a souless knife. It is fun to flick though.
GeorgeMX
113
Apr 5, 2019
wdennisI like your description "souless" knife. I know that feeling. It's terrible. If you do not own a Spyderco Tenacious, it's a great EDC for $50. It has soul and, for the price, it makes for a good beater knife.
Benjabooly
373
Aug 20, 2018
I have this knife, and might I say, Bestech is killing it in ALMOST every way. I paid 55 for this at a brick and mortar store, which I don't regret because sometimes I get a good deal on a dealer exclusive knife, but for this price here, this is probably the best quality knife I have handled. There is ceramic on all the bearings, including the detent, and the action is fairly good at any under $150 pricetag out of the box. It whips out and closes silky smooth. After rebuilding it (Only rebuild knives if you are experienced or willing to lose the knife until you figure it out) it is damn near drop shut action. The handle is comfy, contoured, and mostly neutral, that and I am a sucker for nicely G10 for some reason. Only problem with bestech, Leftys are excluded, such as myself. I do not regret this or my Rhino, but cannot justify one of their truly great, higher end knifes until they fix that problem.
Benjabooly
373
Aug 21, 2018
Ah my condolences to them. I hope they have a good wiha, wera or similar good bit or driver set.
Solina
30
Oct 18, 2018
BenjaboolyMan, Bestech‘s new knives will have left use version. Thanks for your support, let’s wait and see!
MaxwellDemonic
838
Apr 6, 2018
I'll warn anyone joining this, the screws I got on this model were soft and stripped on first disassembly without much provocation.
Kavik
5531
Apr 6, 2018
I bet it was!
I definitely didn't have this problem with my Goblins from the Ti line. Nor the Swordfish from the G10 line.
Don't know if that means the screws weren't as soft, or if it was just that they unscrewed easily...
Have a couple of Thorns that should be arriving in a couple days, will be sure to check them carefully
Have a couple of Thorns that should be arriving in a couple days, will be sure to check them carefully
Kavik
5531
Apr 7, 2018
Just a quick follow up... All screws on 2 Thorns that arrived today all check out good as well...... For whatever it's worth.
Fingers crossed that my luck holds out, and that yours improves on your next purchase 👍
planb10113
352
Feb 23, 2018
Really disappointed with the quality of this knife. Also, anyone else order the stonewash finish and get satin? I hope I can return this.
childreyesque
72
Apr 8, 2018
the knife is fun to play with
opening it, knife version of
racking 12 gauge
very nice looking also
JeremyHeld
47
Apr 9, 2018
For what it's worth I've put my kendo through the ringer with heavy daily use and have had no issue whatsoever. I think it's the best bang for your buck out there. If anyone has had breaks or locks slipping I'd love to know what the hell they were doing when it broke/slipped?
JustFluxz
456
Feb 6, 2018
I took too long to decide and now the satin black that I wanted is sold out. :(
Is this fate telling me to just save my money and stop spending?!
awk
1600
Feb 3, 2018
Here are pictures of mine from the last drop. BG05A-1 on top and BG05B-2 on the bottom. The blades are exactly the same finish except the B2 model has dark grey accents on it. I don't know why they'd make it dark grey since the metal is basically the same color... Also note the screw placement versus the 3D renders Massdrop used for some of the pictures.
Another comparison of the blade finishes. Again the only difference is the grey color on the flat (stonewashed) part of the blade as well as the fullers. In particular the rest of the blades are the same satin finish on both, but they look different in these photos due to uneven lighting.
Another comparison of the blade finishes. Again the only difference is the grey color on the flat (stonewashed) part of the blade as well as the fullers. In particular the rest of the blades are the same satin finish on both, but they look different in these photos due to uneven lighting.
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