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KrisBali
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Jan 20, 2018
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Raydeonthanks for reply. i just read on a post somewhere that dac gives quality and amp gives power, would that be true? i dont usually listen to loud music, shouldnt i go for a dac rather than an amp then?
Archaist
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Jan 20, 2018
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KrisBaliIf you're listening to digital files using PC or other digital device you already have a dac inside your sound card. The problem is: it's probably not very good and can convert to analog (your headphones) with a quality loss. So it's better to get a dedicated external sound card (DAC) instead of an internal one. A dedicated amp may be needed because high resistance headphones need a power headroom to sound as intended. I'm not sure what you need to get, I'm just explaining basic stuff.
KrisBali
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Jan 20, 2018
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Archaistthanks for reply. yes after some reading and youtubing, i realised that the dac will improve the sound quality significantly as compared to my pc's dac. also, the amplifier not only amplifies the sound but also adds some signature to it making it nicer to the ears. I am highly tempted by the modi magni3 combo. but its costing me more than the headphone 6xx, wonder if that price tag is justified.
Z0d1Ac
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Jan 20, 2018
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KrisBaliThe fulla 2 is about the same price as the modi 2. You want the modi 2's dac and the magni 3's amp.
I have a aune x1s 10th anniversary edition on the way and will be trying it out against my massdrop o2 and schiit magni 2 amps. (Will use the x1s dac, known for one of the best dacs anyways when comparing the amps).
As of right now without a dac, the schiit magni 2 amp sounds a little better than the o2. The o2 is maybe more neutral but is little muffled and a little less separation (soundstage/imaging) and a little more distorted. I think the o2 may have a bit better bass tho, tho I have heard the magni 3 has a bit better bass so this sound not be a concern. As a side note I prefer the volume control and knob (smoother) better on the schiit and it has a big jack instead of the little 3.5mm.
Once I try out those three, I will sell two and may consider trying some cheaper options like the micca origen g2 or the fiio q1 mark ii (has balanced and portable so I may pick this up just for that!).
More expensive things I may try, but probably don't plan to have balanced such as the aune x7s, schiit jotunheim (may wait for a new version) and monoprice has their new monolith amp coming (would wait for reviews first tho).
Hope I was somewhat helpful.
I have a aune x1s 10th anniversary edition on the way and will be trying it out against my massdrop o2 and schiit magni 2 amps. (Will use the x1s dac, known for one of the best dacs anyways when comparing the amps).
As of right now without a dac, the schiit magni 2 amp sounds a little better than the o2. The o2 is maybe more neutral but is little muffled and a little less separation (soundstage/imaging) and a little more distorted. I think the o2 may have a bit better bass tho, tho I have heard the magni 3 has a bit better bass so this sound not be a concern. As a side note I prefer the volume control and knob (smoother) better on the schiit and it has a big jack instead of the little 3.5mm.
Once I try out those three, I will sell two and may consider trying some cheaper options like the micca origen g2 or the fiio q1 mark ii (has balanced and portable so I may pick this up just for that!).
More expensive things I may try, but probably don't plan to have balanced such as the aune x7s, schiit jotunheim (may wait for a new version) and monoprice has their new monolith amp coming (would wait for reviews first tho).
Hope I was somewhat helpful.
PeteMtl
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Jan 20, 2018
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Z0d1AcI look forward to hear from you regarding the Amp comparison that you are planning. These are 3 of the most talked about amps on Massdrop. Please share your findings.
nsonnson
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Jan 20, 2018
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Z0d1AcCouldn't wait to hear your review on x1s, I'm planning to buy one as well:) . Currently choosing between O2 and x1s, I'm more prefer to the cheaper o2 tho.
Please tag me when u post your review! :D
JadMaktabi
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Jan 21, 2018
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ArchaistWhich amp/dac combo should I get? Budget of 200$ max. Should I opt for the Magni Modi 3 or Fulla 2 or the O2 Odac?
JadMaktabi
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Jan 21, 2018
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Z0d1AcWhich amp/dac combo should I get? Budget of 200$ max. Should I opt for the Magni Modi 3, Fulla 2 or the O2 Odac?
Z0d1Ac
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Jan 22, 2018
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JadMaktabiDid you read my post? All I can say is I think the schiit magni 2 beats the o2 amp.
If I have to guess without listening to them all first, then
For around $100: Fiio q1 mark ii > micca origen g2 > fulla 2.
For around $200: Aune x1s > Schiit magni 3 with modi 2 > o2 amp with odac.
Is the extra $100 worth it? I dunno, I am sure if there is a difference it be somewhat small maybe.
If I have to guess without listening to them all first, then
For around $100: Fiio q1 mark ii > micca origen g2 > fulla 2.
For around $200: Aune x1s > Schiit magni 3 with modi 2 > o2 amp with odac.
Is the extra $100 worth it? I dunno, I am sure if there is a difference it be somewhat small maybe.
Z0d1Ac
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Jan 22, 2018
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JadMaktabiYes, the aune x1s is both an amp and a dac.
Massdrop just dropped it a few days ago with the new 10th anniversary edition for $200. The aune x7s (it's a amp only, but is class a and balanced) for $200. If you bought both then you get $20 off ($380 usd).
I decided to only get the aune x1s. I mainly want to sell off the other stuff I am going to try and maybe consider the x7s if they come out with a new version (generation).
Massdrop just dropped it a few days ago with the new 10th anniversary edition for $200. The aune x7s (it's a amp only, but is class a and balanced) for $200. If you bought both then you get $20 off ($380 usd).
I decided to only get the aune x1s. I mainly want to sell off the other stuff I am going to try and maybe consider the x7s if they come out with a new version (generation).
JadMaktabi
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Jan 22, 2018
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Z0d1AcShould I wait for the next drop or get the magni 3 modi 3 stack?
PeteMtl
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Jan 22, 2018
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JadMaktabiAs far as I know, both options are roughly equivalent, pricing is also equivalent. The Schiit stack is ... a stack, 2units (Magni3 and Modi2) that you may stack one on top of the other. It is also more powerful than the Aune X1s or the O2/ODAC or SDAC, which may or may not be significant to your usage. You can’t go wrong with either options. It’s a matter of personal taste and choice.
Z0d1Ac
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Jan 22, 2018
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JadMaktabiWell some things to consider. Sound wise whats better? I dunno, up to you if you want to wait for people to review it.
Aune x1s has more power now, does it have more power than a magni 3? According to the specs the magni 3 may be more powerful.
The magni 2 and o2 amp have plenty of head room to run my m1060, 6xx, he-4xx, k7xx, so unless you have something harder to drive, then maybe consider the magni 3.
Sound wise I heard the magni 3 is almost the same as the magni 2, maybe a bit more bass. That's what the more power is probably helping the most.
The modi 2 does not have rca, coax, out and has no coaxial or optical in. The aune x1s does while the modi 2 uber costing more does but is missing rca and coaxial out. The aune x1s has higher sample rate support and dsd but that does not really matter because most songs don't use it but its there in case. Most people will just use optical and also with that not need any drivers (only up to 96 khz with optical). The aune is a all in one so it will take less space.
Aune x1s has more power now, does it have more power than a magni 3? According to the specs the magni 3 may be more powerful.
The magni 2 and o2 amp have plenty of head room to run my m1060, 6xx, he-4xx, k7xx, so unless you have something harder to drive, then maybe consider the magni 3.
Sound wise I heard the magni 3 is almost the same as the magni 2, maybe a bit more bass. That's what the more power is probably helping the most.
The modi 2 does not have rca, coax, out and has no coaxial or optical in. The aune x1s does while the modi 2 uber costing more does but is missing rca and coaxial out. The aune x1s has higher sample rate support and dsd but that does not really matter because most songs don't use it but its there in case. Most people will just use optical and also with that not need any drivers (only up to 96 khz with optical). The aune is a all in one so it will take less space.
KrisBali
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Jan 22, 2018
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Z0d1AcYes that would have been superb! I emailed them asking if a modi3 in the pipeline. Hope they respond.
PeteMtl
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Jan 22, 2018
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KrisBaliIs there a Modi3 to be? Not sure, haven’t heard of this
PeteMtl
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Jan 22, 2018
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Z0d1AcThat is what the X1s is all about if this is what you need, plus an amp...
affraz
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Jan 23, 2018
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KrisBaliWell, I would also like to know that. But Schiit says that they wouldn't tell anyone if/when they are going to release something new.
Getting a direct quote from here: http://www.schiit.com/about/faq/the-basics
" That's cool, I just want to know if you have a new product or upgrade coming out soon? Ask Apple about their upcoming products. Yeah. Same goes here. Sorry, but for obvious reasons, we don't discuss new products or upgrades before release. "
Getting a direct quote from here: http://www.schiit.com/about/faq/the-basics
" That's cool, I just want to know if you have a new product or upgrade coming out soon? Ask Apple about their upcoming products. Yeah. Same goes here. Sorry, but for obvious reasons, we don't discuss new products or upgrades before release. "
KrisBali
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Jan 23, 2018
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affrazI emailed them and got kinda same response too. hmm, well kept secret.. there is boffard from masterswitch who replied me on his youtube saying to wait some.. so wait i shall ;)
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