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If you want to rule over your desktop with a keyboard fit for a king, it’s time for the coronation of the Royal Kludge RC930-87EC. Outfitted with electro capacitive switches with Cherry MX stems, designed in a space-saving tenkeyless or full-size layout, and featuring full programmability over every key and full N-key rollover, this keyboard lets you switch your approach and fully embrace your inner majesty Read More
I need the software for the Gen2 RC930-104, their website no longer has the software for programming the keyboard, somehow mine is constantly sending an ALT key every 1 second as a macro, and i can't disable it. even the reset key combo won't stop it.
Here's my review:
After years of buying/selling/collecting keyboards, I'm surprised by the fact that my favorite keyboard to type on currently is the Royal Kludge C930-87 RGB (there's also a version without LED backlighting, as well as have 35g, 45g, and 55g versions. Mine is 45g).
When I first got into mechanical keyboards, I preferred the very tactile ones, and if that meant the keyboard might be loud (buckling spring, Cherry MX Blue), I didn't mind it too much, because the overall impact was more visceral and fun. But once I've experienced the much quieter Topre RealForce ergonomic weighted silenced version, I much preferred the peace and quiet while typing. However, the ergonomic weighted version wasn't tactile enough (due to the keys with lesser weight), while the 55g version was a little heavy for my taste. There were other switches there were kind of in-between, with enough tactile feedback but not too noisy, such as the Matias quiet switch, Cherry MX Clear, Leopold's 45g Topre. I would have been happy with those, but then I got the Royal Kludge C930-87 RGB, and it instantly felt "just right," sort of like the Goldilock and the Three Bears--I found my keyboard. This is probably the one keyboard I'll keep if I have to sell off my entire keyboard collection.
The reasons I love the Royal Kludge C930-87 RGB are:
-Although it's a emulation of the Topre switch and many consider it "not authentic," it is similar enough that I don't really care.
-It's about as quiet as the silenced RealForce Ergonomic Weighted keyboard, but it's more tactile (only because it's not ergonomically weighted).
-It's not as heavy as the 55g Topre.
-It's 45g, and feels slightly smoother than the Leopold 45g Topre, and quieter (less high-pitched clacking). The initial resistance is slightly lower than the Leopold Topre (not as crisp), but the weight feels similar.
-Overall, it just feels really smooth, quiet, and has just enough tactile feedback to feel good to type on, but doesn't call attention to itself for being too heavy.
-It uses Cherry MX stems, so you have lots of keycaps to choose from.
I'm not a fan of LED backlighting that will spill out between the keys and distract from the actual legends, so I did a mod where I took off the keycaps, then used black acrylic paint to cover the transparent housing. This provided enough blocking of the light spill to make it a lot less distracting. And if you don't like LED backlighting, there's a version without it, or you can just turn it off, as well as put on your own choice of Cherry MX compatible keycaps.
I know keyboard preferences are highly subjective, but I just wanted to share this with all of you, in case some of you are looking for a keyboard with similar characteristics.
mattstermhSorry, I didn't see your question until now. It is still my favorite keyboard of all-time. Everything in my previous review still stands. But I think maybe I'd go for a 55g version in the future, if it's available, just for those days when I want the satisfaction of pounding on keys that are just a bit more tactile. I don't think Royal Kludge makes this line of models anymore though--it seems they only have the Cherry MX brown version these days? However, RealForce now makes a RGB tenkeyless version, and I'd imagine it'd be very simillar.
I have had this board for several months as well. It has been my daily driver since i received it. Love the sound of the topre keys. Unfortunately the board seems to be failing on me. On 2 different computers the board seems to just shut off. Totally unresponsive. When i Plug/Replug I sometimes get "USB Device malfunctioned" and if i try enough it generally eventually comes back to life. Unfortunately it seems to die at quicker and quicker intervals at this point. I am going to have to retire this and return to my Varmillo. Super disappointing but I wont be doing another kludge drop.
loopIf you are daring enough to try, check the USB cord connection inside the case. Use a plastic butter knife to carefully release the catches. A friend of mine was having issues and found that one of the leads was loose on the connector. Make sure they are all seated fully.
Red wire was loose here.
So after having used this keyboard for a little over 4 months, I thought that I can share a review of sorts based on what I think about the Rc-930 87 key. Note that my only other mechanical keyboard I own is a matias tactile mini, and I have only tried individual MX switches through a switch tester.
To start, I’ll preface this by mentioning that I purchased this keyboard because I was drawn to the sensational “thock” that topre and it’s derivatives made when typing. Since I was not ready to shell out the money for genuine topre, this board appeared to be the next best option for me. Ultimately the MX cap compatibility is what sold me on it, with help from the RGB lighting. Stock, this board I found was wonderful to type on, and thoroughly enjoyed the silenced clack of the upstroke. Much softer and springier than the matias that I was using before it. As others have mentioned, it does come with some defects so to speak, which seem to vary between one and another. For mine, it was two things:
-First, key registration was not consistent with the tactile bump, the “K” key being the biggest offender. If I am not careful, simply resting my finger on the key will result in a long string of k’s.
-Second, the caps lock key stopped functioning about a month after I got it. The light wouldn’t turn on, but I circumvented this issue by using fn+ctrl to swap places with the caps lock key. Strangely the caps lock key worked perfectly normal as a ctrl, and vice versa. Just when I got used to the layout, the caps lock key started functioning correctly again, but now I can no longer swap caps and ctrl back to that layout.
When I came across the existance of the Hi-Pro, I was curious to see how SA caps would fair on this board. Months pass and when signature plastics released their Ice cap SA PBT keyset, I decided to jump on it, as I’ve never tried PBT nor SA before. Soon after receiving the set, I wanted to try lubricating the sliders and removing the O rings. The process was extremely tedious, but resulted in an extremely and satisfyingly loud clack, much deeper though somewhat muted compared to the Hi Pro from videos. Needless to say it is now extremely smooth to type on, and the lubricant helped silence the majority of stabilizer rattle that I got from installing the SA caps. It may be of worth to mention that removal of the O rings resulted in pretty noticeable key wobble, though for me this was a non issue, coming from the matias.
While I may not own nor have tried real topre, I have yet to tire of this keyboard and am more than happy to have purchased it, faults and all. A little modification seems to go a long way in terms of key feel and overall experience. Below I posted two videos of me typing on this keyboard. The first video is only with the PBT SA caps, and no further modifications. The second video with O-rings removed is also when I lubed the stabilizers and sliders. Unfortunately the second video does not to the clack justice, it sounds more muted/dull than it is in real life. Apologies for the phone quality
qMy q key sometimes pops up even when I have not used it. Quite annoying as it sometimes spontaneously appears when I press the Cmd-key, and thus switches of the application I'm working in. Anything I can do about this? Should not happen after a few months for what remains an expensive keyboard.
(Ha the q at the beginning is just one example)
Sad to say, I've been using the keyboard for a month or so and in line with the other comments it seems like the QC for these keyboards was not up to the same spec as the 1st gen. My control key "skips" sometimes when I press it down, which is very annoying for games. The home key I have to press down hard in order for it to register. Some of the keys feel springy and not very comfortable on the upstroke. It has been mentioned in the past that removing the dental bands on this version causes the keys to work sporadically. That only occurs for me with the space bar, but even then the keys aren't as comfortable on the upstroke. When I plug it into the computer (when it's programmed) while the computer is on, the keys don't work until I toggle off and on the programming mode. The stabilizer stems come off the keys very easily, which makes it difficult to put the keys back on as well. All of these issues, I have not had with the 1st gen.
But it has better lighting, so, there's that. (Though why in the world they made the sides of the keycaps glossy I do not know.)
I'm going to do a little more investigation into the sliders and the switch housing to see if I can find any issues there.
I really hated the amount of glaring light-bleed on this keyboard, so I went ahead and took all the keycaps off and painted the sides of the switch with black acrylic paint. MUCH BETTER.
Anybody having trouble with this keyboard under OSX? On one computer, I have to unplug/replug it to get the lighting to work. On another, the lighting turns off when it wakes up/boots. When I replug it, the lighting works but I get no input from it. In windows and linux and both of these computers, the keyboard works 100% as expected.
I got two of these in the drop and they're both doing the same thing.
I'm really happy with them otherwise and if it had a detachable cable this might be my endgame. Not quite as smooth as my Novatouch TKL but a bit less actuation force and don't have the clatter so they're much quieter.
I also got some PBT's to go on it because of all the complaints about the keycaps... but honestly the stock ones feel great to me.
RoboErectusAfter a restart, I have to use another keyboard for the password and plug this one in/out to make the lights work again. Seems to be an issue with the motherboard. (OSX)
Mine came yesterday as well, I've got some issues with my T key which sometimes stay down, very frustrating. I removed the keycap to see that's the switch which is faulty, I'll see if I can open it or blow some air in case something got stuck. If not enough I'll contact the support.
For the keycap, I really dislike the design but that's comfortable to type on.
Other issue, there was a CD in the box for the driver + software I guess but I have no CD reader on my computer... And with the only file I found (on the official RK page) once I launch the utility I'm told that the keyboard isn't connected.
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I tried manually updating the drivers but was always told that I was already using the most latest drivers.
Any idea ?