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Swaggymcyolo
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Nov 14, 2018
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Hey Massdrop people! These or Beyer DT880 Pro 250 - 600Ohms? FYI im thinking of getting a headphone dad / amp to go with it. any thoughts or info would be appreciated ;)
Nov 14, 2018
Evshrug
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Nov 14, 2018
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The treble of the DT 880 is one of those “love it or hate it” things. Some people love the DT 880, and find it to be the most “transparent” and detailed sound anywhere near its price. You may feel that way. I don’t like to speak out against products, because I realize personal taste is one of the most important aspects of liking a headphone, especially early on along “the journey,” but... I thought I would like the DT 880, bought a 600 Ω premium edition, and I found the overall character tinny, the mids to sound hollow, the treble to sound overly accentuated at certain frequencies, and the headphone gave me tinnitus. I literally mean it gave me tinnitus: I’ve always been careful about my ears and volume when I could help it, but after playing a video game for an hour I had the first phantom ear-ringing I can ever remember experiencing. I was around 28 years old when that happened, and even though I returned the headphone (thanks Amazon!), to this day I will still intermittently have a ringing in my ears come in the middle of the night or at another quiet moment. The DT880 seems bright but not outright ear-piercing, so the fatigue that lead up to the ringing crept up on me. The amp I was using (turtle beach DSS2) wasn’t high end but also not a shrill amp; I would advise anyone interested in trying almost any Beyerdynamic to use a higher quality, smooth, and maybe even dark - sounding amp like a Violectric or something, be a little extra conservative with volume, and buy with a good return policy. I have listened a few times since then on really high-end, reference amp/DAC setups costing thousands of dollars, and they help a bit, but a neutral amp still doesn’t quite get rid of the knife edge. The latest 1770 and 1990 series take off some of the fatiguing edge of these older models while still remaining bright: it's a small change but makes all the difference to me. All the Beyerdynamic headphones I’ve tried had bright sound signatures except the T51i and Amiron Wireless. I was just at CanJam RMAF where I heard the Amiron Wireless, and then I went over to the HD 660 S, which just kicked the Amiron out of contention. The HD 660 S isn’t a dark headphone either, but it sounds more agile, lively, full bodied, and balanced. I played them off the same Flac file on my FiiO X7 to level the playing field as much as possible, and I’ve heard great results from Apt-X in the past that wouldn’t cause the Amiron the level of disadvantage I heard... but the Amiron Wireless is more expensive, closed-back in a mildly noisy CanJam event, using a Beyerdynamic selected DAC/Amp combo built-into the headphone with a short direct signal path, while the HD 660 S is open backed and I plugged it straight into my X7, so feel free to disregard my observations if you desire. Back to the DT 880 vs HD 58X Jubilee. I returned the DT 880 for the reasons I mentioned before, and I have (and kept) a preproduction HD 58X Jubilee. Even the preproduction Jubilee isn’t as bright or fatiguing as the DT 880 was, certainly not as thin and hollow sounding. I don’t have the DT 880 on hand to compare details directly, but the HD 58X still impressed me as having good insight and provides a “wow” moment for people who are more used to car sound systems and other common speakers and headphones. I was always going recommend the HD 58X over a DT 880, but I think it’s worth explaining why.
Nov 14, 2018
Swaggymcyolo
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Nov 14, 2018
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Thanks for the lengthy and helpful description. Ive got a pair of Senn HD555's and felt like giving Beyer a try, but it seems the safe bet is the HD58X, plus i could use them on my smartphone if needed...The beyers just look some comfy
Nov 14, 2018
Evshrug
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Nov 15, 2018
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The Beyer pads are supremely soft! I do wish the headband had a divot in the center; as I said I am a videogamer, also my hair is really thin right there, so the peak of my skull becomes a bit of a hotspot after a few hours. It still is a very very comfortable headphone for an extended time! Just a smidge behind “perfect.” I have an HD 599, which I like, but the HD 58X is clearly an upgrade over that. The discontinued Sony MDR-MA900 and AKG K612 and K712 (which is equal to a K7XX on Massdrop) are also great options (all so lightweight!), but the Sennheiser gets the nod for oval earpads that rest better on the face (and having a more “full” sound that is balanced yet exciting). Have fun, sorry about your wallet!
Nov 15, 2018
sleepnaught
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Dec 31, 2018
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K712 and K7XX are different headphones. Not like the HD 650 and HD 6XX
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Dec 31, 2018
Evshrug
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Jan 6, 2019
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Maybe, I know that the Massdrop version of the Liquid Carbon X is cheaper to produce and has a different power supply than the original Cavalli made ones. HD 58X Jubilee is also less expensive to produce than the HD 6XX/650, I quite like the 58X but I’m surprised the HD 6XX is still being sold (at least still just for $200 ).
Jan 6, 2019
sleepnaught
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Jan 6, 2019
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Because its still selling. They have no reason to drop price.
Jan 6, 2019
Evshrug
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Jan 6, 2019
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No, I mean I’m surprised the HD 6XX is still being sold instead of being a limited edition run, taken out of circulation to let the new product lines have space to grow, or at least the price going back up to where the HD 650 was before Massdrop. I like the headphone and I’m glad to own one, but it was such a steep discount that I thought it was temporary.
Jan 6, 2019
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