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Sonido
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Oct 28, 2015
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Is there a way to enter the special prize drawing without purchasing?
EpicFlyman
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Oct 28, 2015
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SonidoNo. Your purchase is your entry - if you're chosen, you get whatever the prize is instead of one of the other IEM's.
Sonido
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Oct 28, 2015
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EpicFlymanJust wondering since this seems like a sweepstakes which by law are required to have alternative ways to enter without payment. Just trying to make sure they don't get in trouble. Also don't need iems, but don't mind entering if I can somehow! :D
andypak01
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Oct 28, 2015
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SonidoDon't expect free lunch. This is very profound so let it sink in.
Sonido
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Oct 28, 2015
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andypak01No but I'm only quoting the law http://contests.about.com/od/sweepstakes101/p/whatarecontests.htm
At this point it's a lottery which are illegal for private businesses
VonBrew
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Oct 29, 2015
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SonidoI'm just a layman, not a legal professional posting detailed legalese regarding such things on such highly acclaimed and accurate websites such as about.com. To make sure, you should hire an attorney who specializes in internet law to look into this matter to really make sure that you can have a 1/1000ths (or greater) of a chance at a $1,500 pair of headphones for free instead of spending the $25 like everyone else. (Also, if you are really motivated, check out the legalities of Fanduel and Draftkings will you? I'm kinda curious about that myself.)
andypak01
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Oct 29, 2015
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SonidoIt is just my own thinking; but this does not seem as lottery to me. This is where you buy a mystery box where you get equal to or higher value. There is definite money exchanged for product. It is in no way a unilateral exchange of money from one side is exchanged for pure chance of winning something or nothing at all. And when people are paying for a product and purely want to enter for the chance at big prize for free seems more unethical in my eyes. Just my own thinking.
Sonido
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Oct 29, 2015
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VonBrewI actually read about fantasy sports betting is legal cuz it takes "skill" to select the right players. Anyways I'm no lawyer and it's up to massdrop on what they do and I'm sure they've ran this through their legal team. Did you know even McDonald's monopoly doesn't require buying food to try your luck? You can mail them to request free random peel off stickers. That's what companies that run these sweepstakes usually do is make it a hassle to get free entries like requiring snail mail.
TWD-Industries
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Oct 29, 2015
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SonidoCovered this last two times they ran one of these. This is a gachapon, or grab bag, system, not a sweepstakes. In a sweepstakes, you exchange money for nothing, or a ticket with a value of nothing, and there is only a possibility to get something. In a grab bag, you buy a something. This something has value. You can sell whatever the something is when you get it, you just don't know what it is until it arrives. So, much like woot's bag of crap, meh's fukubukuro, or literally every capsule machine at every grocery store, it's super legal
Edit:wurds
Edit:wurds
Sonido
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Oct 29, 2015
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TWD-IndustriesHere's an interesting read: http://www.thompsoncoburn.com/news-and-information/sweepstakes-law-blog/blog/14-02-04/can-a-grab-bag-be-a-sweepstakes.aspx
They make the point that grab bags with vastly differing value items could be considered a sweepstakes and therefore a method of free entry would be required. I understand everyone wants to defend massdrop because we all love their service and this kind of stuff is fun, and I doubt any of us are going to report this, but if they do get in trouble for this and get fined, are any of you going to help foot the bill?
Sonido
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Oct 29, 2015
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TWD-IndustriesI'm just trying to make sure massdrop knows what they're doing. Perhaps it's legsl only because all prizes are more expensive than the entry fee, but the fact they have a $1600 grand prize makes it something they should want to look into. Nothing is technically illegal until you're caught :p
Spicy_Cork_Sauce
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Oct 29, 2015
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SonidoThat's actually a very valid point...
I like Massdrop and I wouldn't want see any harm come to them. Hopefully they understand what they are doing with this.
I like Massdrop and I wouldn't want see any harm come to them. Hopefully they understand what they are doing with this.
VonBrew
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Oct 30, 2015
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SonidoNo you are not. You've hypothesized about the legality of their grab bag by quoting "about.com." You simply want a chance at the high end goodies without paying anything. You've already mentioned that you don't need IEM's but would like the HD800's. Good luck with the weak ass attempts at trying to finagle a freebie out of MD just as a hush money payment.
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