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oryan_dunn
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Jan 21, 2016
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I assume the only difference between Woox and Gibson are the printed labels that are stuck on the box. I would think they're made by the same people in the same factory that have no idea who Woox or Gibson are, and that manufacturing changes are all directed by the same people. Having worked for companies that have bought and been bought, it's usually business as usual for quite a while after the deal is finalized. To me, it sounds like they wanted to lightly secure the ear pads and the glue ended up being overkill, and about the same time there was a bad batch that slipped through for some reason.
Jan 21, 2016
JayDay
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Jan 21, 2016
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The differences seem to be much more than that. The first long review by MB here illustrates that, and others have brought up sound quality differences, which is really the only main thing that concerns me: http://www.amazon.com/Philips-X2-27-Fidelio-Headphones/product-reviews/B00O2Y2MZG/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt_rgt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=helpful&filterByStar=critical&pageNumber=1
Jan 21, 2016
oryan_dunn
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Jan 21, 2016
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Which is what I meant by the "bad batch". Someone commenting on this thread even said they had a Gibson one that sounded fine.
For what it's worth, I was in on the first Fidelio L1 drop. The first headphone I received had some weird surface blemishes on the aluminum. Massdrop promptly replaced it, but the replacement had issues with the mic cable that cause the drivers to not be grounded (causing it to sound horrible). They didn't have another replacement, so they sent me the sample unit they had in house that they tested and used for the pictures. I chose their sample unit, which while it wasn't technically new, it was perfectly fine, and has worked well with no issues for me.
I'm on the fence about this deal since I really don't have much use for a completely open back set of cans, but the general good reviews make me want to listen to it. I'd not have any hesitation that if there were an issue that Massdrop wouldn't do their best to get you a good unit or a refund.
Jan 21, 2016
JayDay
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Jan 21, 2016
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A safer, better buy would probably be the AKG K7XX, or Fostex TH-X00, or not in the headphone category but very amazing is the Grace M9XX which just dropped a few minutes ago. It seems their standards for the Massdrop hybrids is VERY high, so they are extremely high quality products at great prices. I just got in on the Grace drop(https://www.massdrop.com/buy/grace-design-x-massdrop-m9xx-dac-amp), I won't touch these now, the older version of the X2s has a great reputation, but still, the AKG K7XXs for the same price($200) are probably (much)better, so why risk it, X2s aren't the end all to be all. Though I am really pissed about this, because I have been waiting a LONG time for this drop, and for only $50 off what they have been selling on Amazon for the last 6 months(along with the quality issues), it's a major let down. I should have just gotten them 6 months ago on Amazon and I'd have an original version. Also, if you don't have an amp or think they are unnecessary, I was a skeptic too, but they actually do make a noticeable difference in sound, even when you can already get sound from them without the amp.
Jan 21, 2016
oryan_dunn
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Jan 21, 2016
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For me personally, the ideal headphone doesn't exist. I've got some hearing loss in my left ear due to a puncture in my left ear drum. I'd love if I could get a mismatched driver pair, that has a boost in treble in the left ear.
I don't have the money for that amp, and I'm happy with the output direct from my phone. For me, in my office, the semi open/closed L1 is great, and I'd like the L2 due to others saying it's less dark, with better mids and treble, which is what I need.
Jan 21, 2016
JayDay
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Jan 21, 2016
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If you'd like to save money, and you like Phillips, I would go with the SHP9500s, much cheaper and very close to the X2s, no quality concerns. I would go SHP9500 over these X2s easily, too risky, and the 9500s are GREAT. Probably the best deal in headphones that can be had, brand new for $80. If you wanted to spend $200 though, what are your thoughts on the AKG K7XX?? You do NOT need an amp with these, and they are semi-closed, as opposed to fully open like the X2s, which means with X2s, everyone around you will EASILY be able to hear what you are listening to, it will sound loud, and you will be able to hear everything going on around you as well. The K7XXs are semi open, so that will limit some of that, but they are still not fully noise cancelling.
Jan 21, 2016
JayDay
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Jan 21, 2016
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Also, if you use them with a computer, you should be able to control the output of the left and right channels(right click on sound, go to Playback Devices, and then in Configure or Properties there is the option to change the strength of the Left and Right channels to what suits you)
Jan 21, 2016
dbzakj
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Jan 21, 2016
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Doe a scratching the glue off make the sound better or does it stay the same due to some other reason?
Jan 21, 2016
JayDay
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Jan 21, 2016
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The glue (most likely)doesn't affect the sound quality, but it is just an easy identifier that they were manufactured by the low quality, cost cutting, cheap, garbage Gibson manufacturing. Being made there is the issue, not that they may not sound similar to the original X2s, but there has been a slew of reports that the QC issues with sound quality have increased dramatically with them switching to Gibson. The glue is not a major issue at all, it is just an indicator that there may be bigger issues. At $200, I would wait for another K7XX drop and get those for the same price.
Jan 21, 2016
badgerbadgerbadger
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Jan 21, 2016
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If the glue has been applied to only the pegs and the holes, it will not affect sound quality either way. The problem is that with individual units it has been applied either poorly (a spot on the driver cover, for example) or in too large quantity that it causes the pad to become damaged when you remove it from the headphone.
Jan 21, 2016
badgerbadgerbadger
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Jan 21, 2016
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I have a similiar problem with the highest and lowest frequencies in my left ear. It's not a complete solution but for Windows you could try 'Equalizer APO' which allows you to create an EQ for specific channels.
Jan 21, 2016
LxJLthr
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Jan 21, 2016
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Going back to @nicpope statement about Philips products always purchased by the 40 foot cargo container full...if that's their measure of a "batch"...I will run even further if 60,000 lbs and/or 2,400 cubic feet of faulty electronics did not get noticed by their QA.
Jan 21, 2016
sghound
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Jan 23, 2016
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yep save da dosh for grace. da true invisible link.
Jan 23, 2016
Bloos
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Jan 24, 2016
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@oryan_dunn seams like this device called AUMEO could help you, it provides different EQs for each of your ears, I haven't tried it myself but it won awards and stuff. Link: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aumeo-world-s-1st-tailored-audio-device#/
Jan 24, 2016
oryan_dunn
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Jan 24, 2016
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Wow, thanks for the heads up, that looks really interesting!
I'm curious how it determines your profile, and if you'd have the same profile over multiple different headphones. Either way, I may just have to jump on that instead of yet another pair of headphones.
It'd be great if that technology could be built into the phone itself.
Jan 24, 2016
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