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Topping DX3 Pro DAC/Amp

Topping DX3 Pro DAC/Amp

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Topping’s DX3 Pro has a long list of excellent specifications, and at the top are the highly regarded XMOS XU208 USB chip with dual AK4493 DACs and an OPA1612 opamp. This combination allows the DAC/amp to drive headphones with great accuracy and power: an impressive 1,000 mW from the eighth-inch jack on the front panel Read More

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amirm
341
Nov 22, 2018
Of dozens and dozens of DACs and amps that I have, this is my main unit that I listen to. At this price, it is an amazing bargain. Amir AudioScienceReview
ivoa
4
Jul 25, 2019
One chip for each channel I believe. It's not balanced. Balanced means that each channel (left and right) uses 3 wires, one for ground and the 2 others for signal. The waveforms are then shifted out of phase so that the noise picked up along the wire will happen at different places in the signals because the phases are not in sync. At the other end the signals of the two inputs are compared and the noise can be removed and only the intended signal is left. Hopefully I remembered it correctly :)
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BobJones8P
54
Jul 26, 2019
ivoaOkay, thank you so much for your response!
fiction0711
11
Jan 7, 2019
I have a question. Is this dx3 pro comparable to the Schiit stack (Magni + Modi) or the Jotunheim? In other words, is Schiit Jotunheim an upgrade to this dx3 pro?
simonch
45
Jan 10, 2019
fiction0711Its better than a schiit stack, and Jotunheim not really an upgrade, but thats just my opinion. The dx3 is probably the best midrange solution for most people, and huge value for its price. I use mine with the HD6xx and DT880.
Oberonmeister
66
Jan 10, 2019
simonchJotunheim also had some problems with open loads and ground loops, which is unacceptable for a price. Also it measures slightly worse compared to MX3 (which, again, is cheaper), especially when it comes to SINAD and distortion+noise Vs frequency.
I've read a lot of reports that over USB this clicks constantly. Have they fixed that?
amirm
341
Dec 12, 2018
There would normally be a new firmware file and some program/control panel to push it into the device. So pretty easy stuff if all goes well.
verifonix
1181
Dec 12, 2018
I think from inside the chassis. The device itself.
powerjac
18
Feb 15, 2019
Just as a heads-up to those considering purchasing this DAC/Amp, there have been numerous reports on Reddit and Audio Science Review of these units failing in a number of ways, including blown headphone outputs, units failing to exit standby, etc. There are some pretty active threads over on ASR on this unit: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-dx3pro-dac-and-headphone-amp.4967/page-141
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-should-recall-all-their-dx3-pros.6780/
danielson99
3
Apr 27, 2019
First of all, the vast majority of users who have an issue will come back here to post about it. Not just to warn others but also to look for a fix. Secondly, the vast majority of users who have no issues will not come back here and post about it. You have to take it as a grain of salt. Yes, the complaints will seem more common in this forum but there is a logical reason for it. You don't do forum users any justice by flagrantly exaggerating the amount of faulty units. Infact, you are doing users a disservice by perpetuating false and misleading statements. This product is made in China, most people know you take a risk buying from China but this risk is almost always offset by the savings you get compared to similar and usually more expensive products made in the USA or Germany for example. I'm all for raising awareness about product issues but let's keep it as unbiased as possible so everyone benefits from more accurate information. Peace.
simonch
45
Apr 27, 2019
danielson99Sorry I'm not perpetuating anything, time passes and the units are still plagued but the same problems, mainly shutdowns and OPAs blowing up. I mean theres someone on his 3rd replacement... I dont really care anymore, I just restart mine when it shutdowns but it wont be much of a surprise when it wont come back up.
bravomail
125
Nov 21, 2018
modi3/atom combo will beat it but at 25 more greens. Anyway. Good device. Just weaker amp section. And I need all the amp I can get. audioscience has the same conclusion.
verifonix
1181
Nov 22, 2018
It was just a play on his own words, "let that sink in" is what that user said. I don't mean anything by it man.
bravomail
125
Nov 24, 2018
verifonixok I was wrong. I thought they use the same DAC :)
sll325
2
Dec 18, 2018
What is Better in sound quality DX3 pro or D50? opinions/facts/experience? :)
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verifonix
1181
Jan 8, 2019
RollavenD50 measures a hair better. But yeah
derhp
173
May 13, 2019
Does this really have a standard headphone jack? Too bad, would probably get this if it had a 1/4" jack...
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JJayJJ
472
Jun 6, 2019
Oooh, so you are actually running into a power limit with those T50 mods, and such? I had no idea they were that power hungry. Now I understand, thanks for clearing that up. Also love the LCD2C's :) wish the headband design was completely different (hotspot nonsense), aside from that, the sound is lovely.
OrcaBrigade
118
Jun 6, 2019
JJayJJOh yeah, I most certainly am getting a power issue (on just the T##RP mk3 line of cans). Granted I like my music loud some of the time... most of the time? I dunno, but more often than not I am cranking the dx3 pro to the max with high gain just to get what I would call enjoyably loud volume for something I just wanna lose myself in. The T##RP mk3 series of cans are kind of a meme in how hard they are to drive. It's a joke but still quite the reality. I believe it's more due to the fact that it's just an inefficient and poorly designed driver. As my note8 can power my m1060c open or closed and also my lcd2c cans no problem. The lcd2c being a decent bit more efficient than the m1060c. With my new lg v50, I can get both of them pretty damn loud now, thanks to the quad dac built in. But yeah, seeing as the mods of the T##RP mk3 series use the very same driver, they are all limited by that. Now once you power them properly they can sound pretty damn good. I use my Topping D10 dac and Monolith Liquid Spark amp to make those cans just fucking SING! I even found a great way to darken the sound, get some brainwavz micro suede xl rounds. Then rather than put the retaining lip into the little slot, slide it over the back of the cup and entirely encase it up to the raised blocky looking part. I ended up getting a bit better lows and mids from it while also getting back some efficiency. I believe some of the sound was being lost due to leakage from that small seam where the retaining lip of the ear pad would slide into. That or it's now being allowed to act like a more sealed off enclosure and potentially allowing the driver to "bounce back" into the resting position after being moved. I know the t50's I have are semi open back but upon further inspection of the rear of the driver, I notice that there is a micro cloth along the back of it. So that could very well be acting like a restrictive force to sort of close it off some. Or it could be used as a wave guide to force more of the sound production into a desired direction. I am not entirely sure... I lack the knowledge and tools to decipher this enigma. But I do know that I like them now, I love my m1060c after opening them up, and I REALLY LOVE my lcd2c. Speaking of the lcd2c, I am noticing that the strap is beginning to stretch just a smidgun... And leather working or any cloth working is relatively easy. But get some leather or what have you that you like. Unscrew the strap from the can, trace out everything you like about it and cut it from the material you bought. Then trim that 'sumbitch down and BOOM! You have a brand new strap of your desired material, design, and length. Don't forget, for about 30 usd you can purchase extended yoke rods from them to give you some more length and allow that shorter strap to really do its thing moe bettuh. And no, thank you for engaging me with really enjoyable conversation, mang. I really enjoyed being able to get my point across to someone that was willing to pay attention to what I was saying, and what I have learned in my tests. Rather than just calling me unsavory things and fucking off. Totally digressed from the discussion about this product, eh? Well, I still stand by this product. I love using my lcd2c and my m1060c cans on it, and by the powers that be! This damp is fucking brilliant for IEM usage as well! Keep that in mind, bud. A-and anyone else who has the moxie to have read every comment to this point. XD
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Usehername
107
Feb 28, 2019
Has anyone upgraded the USB cable and what results? Recommendations?
Z0d1Ac
251
Mar 2, 2019
Whoops. They actually don't have monolith rca, just the coaxial digital cable (which is just one lead). Not dual rca analog cables, well maybe look at different brand if you need rca. My mistake.
MikeS19
3
Mar 3, 2019
There is no such a thing as digital cable, but for short lengths most USB cables will do.
verifonix
1181
Nov 21, 2018
This thing measures amazingly above its price class. Headphone amp is not super powerful but its performance is great too. https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-topping-dx3pro-dac-and-headphone-amp.4967/ Dual AKM4493 DAC, multiple inputs, bluetooth and amp with low/high-gain all included.
reubadoob
53
Nov 21, 2018
verifonixThanks for the link! Very informative review.
trapperkeeper
11
May 13, 2019
I was all ready to join this drop, but reading reports of failures on audiosciencereview really bummed me out. I would wait until V2 of this device, which they do not have a timetable for according to the Topping representative on the forums on May 2. The current model DX3 pro does NOT have headphone protection and multiple users have reported failures of the DX3 causing their headphones to break. “Faulty DX3 Pro could sometimes damage headphones if opamp fails and becomes shorted (in some cases failed opamp may damage transistor too and/or leak DC to headphone output)”
RubyInferno
3
Jun 11, 2019
Great to hear you found a workaround mate, I wish this problem did not exist because otherwise its one heck of a deal at that price.
OrcaBrigade
118
Jun 11, 2019
RubyInfernoI am pretty happy with it. The home theater rack power system I have for conditioning and filtering the electricity helps reduce a good bit of any latent noise. So adding adapters like a madman does nothing to my audio so long as the connections are solid and the adapters aren't shit.
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