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i had these a while back before getting into flagship IEMs. i thought they were better than the w40, more neutral/balanced sound whereas w40 was quite bass heavy and darker. i think the w30 is a steal at this price, it is a very non-fatiguing fun sound. also easily one of the most ergonomic IEMs i've used, you can fall asleep in these and they're super comfortable for extended use. i also prefer them over the SE535. i also think these are at least 80% there in sound quality compared to the W60. just my 2 cents for anyone on the fence.