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Yet another proud dive watch in Seiko’s growing lineup, the SRPD model is well-crafted and sized for outings both formal and adventurous. Utilizing Seiko’s popular 4R36 movement, this collection is backed by 24 jewels and boasts a 41-hour power reserve Read More
Purposely sat this one out to see where the comments would go first. Frankly (not looking at sales figures) I'm surprised I didn't find more interest expressed for the drop. Judging from the comments (or lack there of) I'd have to rate the overall reception as no better than "lukewarm"?
Me—I'm on the underwhelmed side. The new Five line didn't do it for me from a design point of view. The upgraded movement was appreciated, loosing the screw down crown was not. Overall the look wasn't different or exciting enough to get me to spend any money.
As an entry-level watch, the price is okay-ish for a name brand--obviously there's plenty of margin to allow discounts as needed.
I'm also not a fan of Green (dial) watches but jumping on that bandwagon was obviously one of Seiko's reasons for introducing that color--along with all the other colors--broader appeal, aimed at a younger audience. There's a catch-all term for that in this business: "Fashion Watches."A guy could make an argument that most watches are fashion watches, and I'd be hard pressed to dispute it. Don't tell me that anyone really believes any of Rolex's or Omega's "tool-watch" grade tool-watches are actually used as tool-watches! Yes, you can take them down deeper than you can go, but few ever do. Same with the diver-styled Seiko Five watches above. Dive Watches are the single most popular style of men's watches purchased today--at almost every price level. Fashion-dive watches don't need screw down crowns, any more than they need exotic gemstone bezels and genuine alligator straps. Seriously, who's kidding who?
Once upon a time, guys bought diver watches because they were perceived to be more water resistant, and generally a lot more durable/beatable than standard men's watches--in other words, for the same reason some guys prefer pickup trucks to Camrys. Both dive watches and pickup trucks became fashionable after the fact.
So whether your idea of fashion diver is a Submariner, a Sumo, a Monster, an SKX, or even one of the Fives above; get the one you like (or can afford) but don't exaggerate the differences or significance between them--they all tell time, and the vast majority of people who see it on your wrist won't know what the hell it is anyway!
Suddenly I'm reminded of that great lyric in Van Morrisons's "Wild Nights":
"All the girls walk by, dressed up for each other And the boys do the boogie-woogie on the corner of the street And the people passin' by stare in wild wonder And the inside jukebox roars out just like thunder"
these are certainly comedown from the SKX .. I'm saddened by this.. happily I have a couple SKX's
All of which were cheaper than this drop (SKX009 $125~ and a A35 $150~ on closeout.at the time I bought them) these are doing nothing for me.. I like diver's watches I HAAATE divers "style" watches.. blah oh well .. Seiko has clearly decided to go another direction in general and not one I'm inclined to follow.. so long and thanx for all the watches Seiko.
even though the SKX's are more expensive now that they are discontinued I'd still buy one of them over these.
dleblancI actually ordered that strap in Navy from Long Island Watch and grafted it onto my Ice Monster. I say grafted because it required some heavy trimming to make it fit.
I upgraded a few of my Heimdallr OEM straps to Seiko silicone straps too. The added benefit is the nicer metal keeper:
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Watchyoutalkingabout
Dec 12, 2019
As one of Seikos staunchest defenders and fans, I’m on a current Seiko strike due to their abysmal quality control. I have 7 total Seikos. All were purchased grey market, on places such as here on Massdrop, amazon, and joma. If you’re going to risk your money on a Seiko, I’d personally advise only through amazon prime.
my turtle, samurai, and basic Seiko 5 are the only ones with perfectly aligned bezel/chapter ring/in spec timekeeping and that’s only because each was exchanged at least once to get a correctly built one.
My Seiko flighty (Massdrop)has a misaligned running seconds hand. My baby ice monster (Massdrop) has slightly offset hands (the hour hand doesn’t line up to its respective hour marker).
My new 3rd gen sumo (sapphire, 6r35 mvmt from joma) has a misaligned chapter ring and is running at -12.
Now, these are admittedly minor issues, and thankfully all of them can and will be resolved at my local watchmaker. This does require an additional outlay of time and money, which I did factor in.
TLDR; Seiko is a great brand, these are all cool watches, but Seikos weakness always has been and unfortunately seems to always will be their quality control. If you do not have the ability/desire to fix QC issues such as misalignments or don’t have access to a good watchmaker, only buy a Seiko if there is an easy return/exchange policy.
WatchyoutalkingaboutWise words. I used to love Seiko but I'll never buy it again without easy way of returning the product. If you are shopping online, get yourself any 200-400$ Phoibos or Zelos (probably many other microbrands) and they are way ahead in terms of quality. Sorry Seiko, one misaligned chapter ring too many.
Watchyoutalkingabout
Dec 12, 2019
VonsooI’ve got 2 Zelos..Zeloses...Zelosi? ZX-5 blue auto Chronograph with lumed subdials and the horizon gmt bronze/hunter green. To be fair, the minutes counter on the chrono is slightly off 12 o’clock, but since it’s obscured from view except during the first 60 seconds, it’s fine. The gmt hand also sometimes is slightly off mark on the gmt, but that’s more due to being a known issue of the ETA movement. Both times I contacted Elshan Tang and he gave me options to make it right. Excellent watches and customer service.
As to Seiko, it’s the latest sumo that pushed me over the edge. It’s a watch they want $750-$850 for. Great watch, great movement. It’s running slow but still in spec, I can deal with it and fix it easily. But a misaligned inner chapter ring? It’s just like you said, one too many times.
Macy's had their exclusive versions on black friday sale for $165 so I picked one up. The dial is much nicer than the skx imo (applied markers etc). The bezel is weird to me without the lume pip after comparing it to my skx but I can get used to it. Since I don't dive having hacking and hand winding is worth the trade off from the screw down crown. Also mine came on a nato and doesn't have the fat spring bars the skx does, don't know if that's the case for all of these.
That said, I think $165 to $180 is where this should be priced for what you get. A solid all around watch and I actually enjoy it quite a bit but there are a lot of dive style automatics that you can get for less with similar quality (minus the 4 o'clock crown). Seiko even has the SNZH line that I like a lot and is cheaper (SNZH55)
Well, for less than $70, you can get a Pagani Design PD-1639, stainless 42 mm case, milled clasp, solid end links, screw-in links, Seiko NH35-A movement, sapphire crystal, lousy lume and a ceramic bezel that lines up as well or better than Seiko's with a few different color options.
I have two Seiko 5 Sport watches. And although I do really like them, they are $100 - $150 watches, and, IIRC, that's about the range of what I paid when I got them from Massdrop. $189 just seems like a steep price for a 5 Sport. And yes, the QC is lacking, as I know one of the two I have has a slightly misaligned bezel.
I picked up an Orient Mako II a year ago and it puts the Seikos to shame. I wear it all the time and the Seikos sit in the winder. The Mako is getting a new Strapcode super oyster bracelet and a domed sapphire crystal for Christmas. :-)