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Drop Pine Down Blanket

Drop Pine Down Blanket

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A down blanket that converts into a sleeping quilt, the Drop Pine boasts a softness and lightness that’ll make you feel like you’re resting on a cloud. The 20d 1.1oz downproof nylon matte shell is quiet and durable with an incredibly soft hand feel, and it’s packed with 10.5 ounces of 850-fill responsibly sourced hydrophobic down Read More

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DannyMilks
4557
Nov 20, 2017
Hi Everyone Down Quilts and Blankets have appeared in Massdrop Polls since the very first days of the Ultralight Community in Fall of 2014. The polls have consistently been some of the most popular, resulting in super successful drops from the likes of Enlightened Equipment, Zpacks, Rumpl and more. 
At it's heart, this is the best down blanket we could make for you. It's roughly the size of a Twin XL mattress, and it would look perfectly lovely on your bed or couch. Secretly, there are a few snaps and hidden cords that can transform this into a sleeping quilt for camping or traveling.
What's special about our down blanket?
1) Comfort. We spent nearly a year finding the best downproof fabric that was both light and SOFT. When you cozy up to this on your couch or in your cabin, we wanted you first impression to be one of luxurious lightness. We didn't want you thinking that this is a really techy product with shiny plasticky fabric. You can be assured that this fabric is high performance, but it doesn't need to *feel* that way. 
2) Versatility. It's a blanket, it's a quilt, and it's possibly so much more*.
3) Best-in-class materials. We want you to feel confident that you're getting a high-end product, and so we started with the best raw materials we could find. The HyperDRY down was developed by The North Face and is the benchmark for quality down. It is Responsibly Down Source (RDS) Certified, bluesign approved, fluorocarbon free (a nasty chemical that was used in earlier hydrophobic downs), and allergen free. This 850 fill power down is very light for the amount of insulation it provides, and will last 10-30 years under normal use and care. The fabric is calendared for downproofness and matte finish and soft hand make it feel more like a comforter than a shiny sleeping bag.
4) Maximized value. By paying special attention to the design, we were able to achieve the maximum warmth to weight ratio. The sewn-through baffles are the lightest and most affordable, so we used tons of down, wide baffle spacing to allow peak loft, and minimal baffling to make a very thick blanket. We added one mid-blanket baffle to keep down from shifting in the long vertical baffles, and otherwise kept the baffles (the low point / potential cold spot in the blanket) to an absolute minimum. Going with 850 fill achieved our goal for weight, warmth, and durability. Moving up to 900 fill would have increased your cost 2-3x and saved maybe an ounce.
A few more thoughts.
Temp rating - Generally, a blanket or quilt with sewn through baffles will be warm down to 40-50F. However, this has 2" of loft, which would put it comparitavely at 30F according to EE and Zpacks. Also, Patagonia has a sewn-through sleeping bag that they rated at 30F. So without testing, I am fairly confident that this would keep men warm down to 40F and women to 45-50F, though it really depends on who you are, how you use it, and what other products you're using, like your sleeping pad and shelter.
Stuff sack - This comes with a stuff sack, though we intentionally designed it a little big to make it easy to stuff your blanket into it. It will definitely fit a smaller sack, likely down to 8 or 10 liters. If you're storing this for a long time, it's best to store it in a large sack, a cotton pillow case, hanging in the closet, or just out on your couch so you can use it everyday!
Design - This is a blanket first, and a quilt second. If you want the best high-performance quilt, then I would point you to Enlightened Equipment or many other small American manufacturers. I make this statement because something like the EE Revelation has a better footbox, more options for securing around your sleeping pad, and tapered area around your leg (which will keep you warmer, all else being equal). So, it's a better quilt. However, it would look a bit funny on your bed, it wouldn't feel as comfy on your couch, and the tapered leg area could be confined to some. Additionally, those quilts cost 2-3x as much.
Temp rating - Generally, a blanket or quilt with sewn through baffles will be sufficiently warm down to 40-50F. However, this has 2" of loft, which would put it comparatively at 30F according to EE and Zpacks. Also, Patagonia has a sewn-through sleeping bag that they rated at 30F. So without testing, I am fairly confident that this would keep men warm down to 40F and women to 50F, though it really depends on who you are, how you use it, and what other products you're using, like your sleeping pad and shelter.
Length - Yeah, it's long! I'm 6'0" and I hate it when my toes just stick out of a blanket or off a mat. My brothers are all taller and this happens to them all the time. I read so many comments from our members that we need to have a longer pad, a tent that fits tall people, or size 14+ shoes. I hear you, and this is 86" long. If you're not as tall, then you just have more blanket to snuggle around your shoulders.
I'm really interested to hear what you plan on using this for. I've already been using one on my couch at home. We keep our house at 60 F in the winter, and this has been perfect for covering the whole family while we read books before bed. I've also used it alone on my bed and backpacking. What are your ideas?
Cheers Danny
*As for the DIY / MYOG person, I definitely had you in mind while designing this. The value of the raw goods, if bought elsewhere, is more than we're selling it for here. I've already been working with Aaron Sorensen on ideas (he's known for modding Costco Down Throws). With a little cutting or sewing, you could make this into your dream quilt with tapered legs. Maybe add a #3 zipper and turn it into a sleeping bag. Sew two together and it's a California King size blanket. Layer two together and it could be a 10F blanket. Cut it in half and make it into two underquits for hammock camping. Turn it into a pair of quilts for toddlers. What else? You tell me! In fact, I'm going to start a Talk page specifically for sharing ideas on altering this blanket: https://www.massdrop.com/talk/2735/diy-myog-massdrop-pine-down-blanket-modifications
Cardamomtea
588
Jun 15, 2019
If you don't mind used sleeping bags, you can go to Reddit ultralight geartrade subreddit, backpackinglight website and go to their gear swap forum, and also this website: https://www.geartrade.com/hiking-and-camping/sleeping-bags/down-sleeping-bags?= For new bags, I've seen the Northface Furnace 20 for $179. It's EN rated lower limit of 14. If you're unfamiliar with EN ratings, it's a standardized test and the "lower limit" corresponds to a men's temp rating, while the "comfort" corresponds to a women's temp rating. Some men sleep cold, some women sleep hot; only you know yourself. Are you looking for a man's or woman's bag? Women's bags typically are shorter, have more room in hips, slightly less in shoulder, and often extra insulation in the foot box. They'll use more conservative ratings in their marketing, so for example, my women's Big Agnes bag is marketed as 15F, is EN rated 15F for "comfort" and 2F for "lower limit" aka men's rating. It's important to note that only sleeping bags can be EN rated -- quilts cannot due to lack of a hood. Also, some manufacturers don't test their bags. They might still be great baga, but there's no way to compare them, so I'm hesitant at recommending them. If you already have a warmish bag, say, 30F and you are on a budget, you can add another cheaper bag and go with 2. This is a less efficient use of weight, and the second bag needs to be much larger in order not to compress down. I have a "mens sized" Enlightened Equipment Revelation 20 quilt I use on top of my "petite woman sized" Enlightened Equipment Enigma 10 quilt when weather is below freezing. This combo weighs less than my single Big Agnes 15F bag. I use the outer quilt as a sacrificial quilt, as I burrow inside itbso it captures moisture overnight. My trips are short enough and "warm" enough at night for this down degradation due to moisture to not be an issue. Anyhow, hope my rambling is useful to you... let me know if you have questions! :-)
AvivGranot21
15
Jun 16, 2019
CardamomteaWow! Thank so much for the detailed answer! I didn't know about the EN so it's always nice to learn something new. I'm looking for a men sleeping bag. My budget is avarge so I will search used ones. Also that a nice idiea to combine two quilts. Do you reccomend a sleeping pad also? With a r value Rating?
Is this duck or goose down?
BronxCheer
7
Nov 25, 2017
Thanks for the thorough explanation of this. It's awful to walk through some retail stores where rows of down jackets and sleeping bags smell like dirty birds. I noticed that Eddie Bauer, Western Mountaineering and Feathered Friends have consistently odorless down products so I tend to stick with them. My GoLite sleeping bag is unoffensive, too.
What type of enzyme cleaner do you use? Also, what do you do to clean down products with DWR?
Stepbystep
549
Nov 25, 2017
BronxCheerFor this, really any enzyme cleaner will do. For tougher things like cat urine there are some products that work better (i.e. acutally work). Any good sports/tech soap will be fine for laundering (Granger's, Nikwax, McNett, etc. My favorite is Atsko but it's harder to find these days.). Just avoid normal laundry detergents since they are harsh on dwr and are hard to rinse clean (leaving residue which feels icky and also degrades dwr performance and/or breathability). Old fashioned original woolite works ok, too, if it's all you have available. Used that for many years before tech soaps existed and it did fine. You don't need a special "down" soap...mostly marketing blurb. For raingear I do prefer my usual Atsko or Granger's since both have been shown to be the gentlest on dwr coatings while being really effective at cleaning, but it's not a huge deal.
Joe_Brewer
99
Dec 4, 2017
Hey everybody, I recently managed to get my hands on one of these custom Massdrop quilts and figured I’d give you all a quick little real world overview/review of the quilt, in addition to sharing some of my thoughts on it. Though I haven’t spent a lot of time with the quilt yet, I feel as if I can make some solid judgements on it based on my past experience with quilts and with building them.
When I first saw the details of the drop, I wasn’t sure what to expect of this quilt. I really like the idea of a quilt that I can use at home most of the time and out camping or summer-backpacking when I need to. That said, most quilts that attempt to capture this happy medium fail miserably and end up being unused in either scenario due to too many compromises.

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Let me start by getting the obvious comparisons out of the way. When you think of down quilt/blanket combos, you probably think of Rumpl blankets and Costco down throws.
In my opinion, Rumpl is overpriced garbage. The materials are cheap, the blanket is undersized, and it’s not even that warm. I guess they have some cool prints.
I’m actually a fan of the Costco Down throws. At $20 they are a decent down blanket and can be modded into many fun things like footboxed summer quilts, pants, and jackets. The materials aren’t the greatest, but they aren’t bad either. The downsides are the small size and limited amount of loft ( i.e. there’s not quite enough down used in the quilt.)
When I first saw this Massdrop quilt my immediate thought was, “Is this worth it when there are $20 Costco down throws available?” I have to say, I think it definitely is. In my opinion the jump up in quality, warmth, and most importantly usability justify the added cost. Here are some things I noticed:
1.) Loft & down quality: The loft on this quilt is pretty impressive. As soon as I pulled it out of the storage sack, it lofted up really nicely. Often times with cheaper and under-stuffed quilts, it will take a long time for them to loft up after being compressed. This is due to the cheaper down quality and an insufficient amount of down in the baffles. This Massdrop quilt appears to not only have quality down, but a lot of it.

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2.) Temperature rating: Despite having sewn-through baffles, this quilt is surprisingly warm. As mentioned above, it’s super lofty and well stuffed with down. I honestly think it could go down to the mid-30’s (F) easily. Unlike the Costco quilt, which has a grid of sewn-through baffles, this quilt minimizes the numbers of baffles (and therefor cold spot opportunities) by doing long vertical baffles, with one mid-length horizontal baffle to keep down from shifting too much. When I laying underneath the blanket, I don’t see any light leaking through at the baffles nor do I see any gaps in down distribution (Not so with the Costco quilt.)
3.) Size: this is where this quilt succeeds the most. The size is perfect for taller people and for actually using the quilt on a bed. I hate pulling up a comforter only for it to uncover my feet. I can say with confidence that that will not happen with this quilt. It’s looooonnng. The quilt isn’t wide enough for two people, but it will easily and comfortably cover one person, with room to spare. Being able to actually use this quilt at home on a bed or on the couch is what really sells this quilt IMO. If you wanted to cover two people, I think you could actually secure two of these quilts together using the buttons on the side of the quilt.

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4.) Material: Not too much to say here other than the material feels nice on the skin and seems to be durable and down-proof. It’s not the lightest available, but for a more durable multi-use quilt, I think that’s ideal.
Other thoughts…
Using the quilt for backpacking/camping: I think that this is a perfectly viable summer quilt, right out of the box. Not only is it long and wide enough to fit most all body types, it’s warm enough to give you a little wiggle room (temperature-wise) for the cooler summer nights. The footbox button and shock-cord cinch system works surprisingly well and leaves little room for drafts to get in, while keeping your legs comfy and covered. It’s not the lightest summer quilt, but at ~19 oz it’s pretty dang light and absolutely acceptable for lightweight backpackers. The stuff sack is bigger than it needs to be, but why not just free-stuff the quilt into your pack anyways?
Buttons/corner pockets: The buttons on the quilt seem to work pretty well and stay snapped tightly. It’s a little strange that they’re hidden underneath little corner pockets, and finding the right way to flip them in order to actually button them (and cinch the shock cord to form a footbox or collar) takes a bit of finagling. But that said, when used in house-mode, having the buttons and cinches hidden under the corner pockets is kind of nice. I guess that’s a draw back of having a multi-use quilt.

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Summary & Final Thoughts
I think that this quilt has actually hit a really nice balance. It’s something that I’ll definitely use at home and that I can see myself taking backpacking in the summers as well. I’ll definitely be using it when camping/sleeping in the back of my truck. The overall weight and portability make it an easy choice to bring along for many situations. Value-wise, I think this quilt is a pretty sweet deal.
This will be a perfect fit for vanlifers and truck campers. It’s cozy, warm, compact, light, and long enough to actually sleep with!
I can see this being used in a plethora of DIY projects too. $100 underquilt… $100 3-season top quilt (with baffles added in)… down booties and pants… hammock top/underquilt pea-pod combo… The value is hard to beat, especially if buying the materials separately.
If you have any questions, leave them below and I'll do my best to answer them, Thanks!
Joe Brewer http://backcountrybanter.com
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Joe_BrewerI really like your commentary and detailed remarks. Especially since you are a member of that specific tech community. Makes me REALLY interested in acquiring this quilt.
But, MAN. I gotta say; I was seriously worrying about that chica getting blown over the edge. Especially if that quilt also has all the LOFT characteristics you say it has.


snicker.
TiffanyPoodleslide"I can see this being used in a plethora of DIY projects too. $100 underquilt… $100 3-season top quilt (with baffles added in)… down booties and pants… hammock top/underquilt pea-pod combo… The value is hard to beat, especially if buying the materials separately. "


I get it now. Base jumping suit.
coolio.
treal512
435
May 23, 2018
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Why is he so happy?
JustCallMeCrash
136
May 24, 2018
treal512Because he's wrapped in a hundred-dollar down blanket, drinking booze from a titanium cup.
treal512
435
May 24, 2018
JustCallMeCrashLOL. Yes!! :)
Jonvondutch
8
May 29, 2018
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Got mine today.
I have to say; I’m a bit confused about the orientation of the press-stud closures. The middle set overlap one way (ie left over right ) and the botton set overlap the other way (right over left) so I get a twist in the blanket if using it as a foot box.
did I get a dud, or does the correct use of the closures escape my understanding???
RAPZ
3
Jun 4, 2018
JonvondutchMine is the same, but it's not really a problem...
Micran
2
Jun 8, 2018
Jonvondutchjust got my two and they are both like yours. Not going to lose my mind over it but def a little annoying
xxlbob
22
Jan 22, 2019
Why not add 12 inches of width and add 20.00 to the price. The quilt would service many more people. You would still get your 3.00 per square foot and only add 1.5 ounces to the weight.
Joomy
212
Jun 9, 2019
xxlbobYou want a wider one, other people want a shorter/narrower one. Seems like a pretty good size to me.
plexus
52
May 24, 2018
The blanket arrived at the post office today. I am in canada. The info says I have to pay another $52 is customs charges. The blanket was $100US or about $130CAD. We have a 13% tax here, which is about $15 CAD on the $100US. Add in a $10 fee from canada post and thats $23. So why a $52 charge?
If I have to pick this up and pay this $52, this WILL BE THE LAST MASSDROP I PARTICIPTE IN. I have purchased a lot from Massdrop but if I have to pay this $52, that will be the end of me and Massdrop.
This fee will increase the cost of the blanket, with shipping to $150US!!!
plexus
52
Oct 6, 2018
I've completely stopped buying from Massdrop. Good deals up front but with al the often hidden fees, its no longer worth it. I'd rather pay a little more with a retailer and know what I am going to be paying. With Massdrop the additional costs are all over the map.
tvtruong
10
Oct 6, 2018
plexusYeah, that's fair. Remember though, merchandise under $20 are not taxed. When NAFTA replacement take effect it will be $40. Items above $40 will only have GST/PST. Item above $100 will be taxed like item that are $20 now. Hang in there.
JoIIyRancher
17
Sep 17, 2018
How small does this get when packed/compressed? Would be great to have a photo of it in a compression sack beside something else for reference like a nalgene or coke can
mate.james
18
Jun 3, 2018
Muzza from Australia, got the blanket and have tried in -1 c temp with thermals on and socks, so good I had to remove socks. love this Product, well done Massdrop. ps: no smells and press studs all ok, have added two bunge cord adjusters for a bit of sercurity And incorporated the massdrop Klymit pad.👍👍👍👍👍
treal512
435
Jul 9, 2018
Thank you for the response. No worries on pictures. I don't have any experience DIY'ing quilts, but I am very DIY-minded. Right now I am considering this blanket/quilt and the HG Burrow Econ 40 quilt. Even on cooler nights (40-45 °F / 5-7 °C) I find a 40 and sometimes 60 degree bag during summer to be way too hot for me. I was considering this blanket, but some people are saying it is not wide enough to be a good quilt. I don't see how that can be unless they are BIG? I am 6'1" about 215 lbs and really on the fence here for this item.
manbackwardsnam
0
Oct 8, 2018
treal512Trying using tarp clips and thread shock cord through them. They work well and it can easily be taken on and off without much effort.
WLVA
55
Nov 21, 2017
While waiting for my EE x Massdrop Revelation to arrive at the end of next month, I have to say I probably would have preferred this drop instead: a blanket that can also serve as a sleeping quilt, rather than a sleeping quilt that can sometimes be used as a blanket. Very tempting -- when is the Massdrop Pine scheduled to ship?
DannyMilks
4557
Nov 21, 2017
WLVARight now we're looking at a spring shipment - probably May. We're always working to deliver faster, as long as the quality is maintained. So you'll be getting your Massdrop Revelation much sooner. But, who says you can't have both :)
DannyMilks
4557
Nov 21, 2017
DannyMilksBTW, you nailed the difference - the Revelation is a quilt that can sometimes be used as a blanket, and this is a blanket that can sometimes be used as a quilt. This can't compete with EE or Nunatak on being the best quilt and I'll never pretend it can.
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