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Massdrop x Peak to Plateau Yakino Wool Sweater
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Massdrop x Peak to Plateau Yakino Wool Sweater
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Yaks are pretty incredible creatures. To survive high in the mountains, where temperatures dip to 40 below, they’ve developed long, coarse hair and a soft down undercoat for extra insulation Read More
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523
Nov 17, 2018
Hey all, I have had the oppertunity to test out the sweater for the last couple of weeks, and thought I would share my thoughts.
First, a bit of background... I have been testing outdoor Yak wool garments pretty much since they hit the market, from most of the brands out there (very very few) that have released outdoor Yak wool garments, including Peak to Plateau and Kora, the two most well known brands. I have over 1,000 days of wearing different garments from those two companies. So, all that to simple say, I have tried out pretty much all of the different 100% Yak wool, and blended Yak-&-whatever-fabric garments out there.
I used the very first Peak to Plateau garments (from their kickstarter campaign) to their second generation fabrics (Yak+Eucalyptus) and now this latest Yak+Merino blend. Kora, the premier Yak wool garment maker in the market, switched to using Yak wool + Merino wool a couple years ago for their higher-end garments. They, as PtP discovered, realized that 100% Yak wool was just too susceptible to fiber break down. I am not sure why PtP decided to go the route of Yak+Eucalyptus for their second generation, instead of just going with Yak+Merino, my guess is a cost issue, but it is really nice to see them finally make the switch to using Merino wool, so, huge props to Massdrop for their involvement in making that happen!
So, backstory explained, what are my thoughts on the Massdrop x Peak to Plateau Yakino Wool Sweater?
I like it. It is a really clean looking garment. I have started wearing it as an around-town garment. Unlike most other 'outdoor' garments, which are designed more for performance than looks, this really is a nice looking garment.
Oh, btw, I got the 'Gray/Black/Red' version. I am not usually a "striped" garment kind of guy, but this is a clean enough design that I have enjoyed wearing it around town.
The previous PtP garment, the Yak+Eucalyptus version, was a really soft to the touch fabric, but this new Yak+Merino version feels even softer on the skin.
What is sweet is that they have gone with a 50/50 blend. That is uncommon, even for PtP, which used a 65% Yak / 35% Eucalyptus in their current line-up of garments. Kora, on their blended garments, uses 70% Merino / 30% Yak wool. By going with a 50/50 blend it should mean that the garment will be a lot less likely to break down during washing of the garment, which is the big killer of Yak wool garments.
One thing to note is that this garment is not a tightly woven garment. This makes for a softer garment, a more luxurious garment, a slightly stretcher garment (which can be good if you need a non-athletic style garment ;), but on the downside is that the garment will let in more air, and not be as warm as a garment with a tighter woven design, and may (?) be more susceptible to thread pulling (??), not an issue that I have had with mine in the last couple of weeks, but maybe over time.
So, would I use this out on the hiking trail? Nah, probably not. While the 50/50 blend is really nice, the amount of air that flows through the garment just seems to nullify any thermal aspects that might be gained by the blend mix of wools, as great as they are.
But, for a nice around town garment that looks really good, that can be worn over just about any shirt, even a nice dress shirt, to help add a bit of warmth, and still look good, yep, perfect situation for this garment.
Totally worth buying for mild-weather conditions, and/or around town, but not for out on the trail in colder conditions. All in all, I am really liking mine. If you are somebody that likes super soft around the town shirts, and made of unique fabrics, that looks really good, and hey, at $100 bucks, awesome price for a nice shirt, I'd say go ahead and hit that "Join drop" button and pick up one of these.
memtkmcc
33
Nov 17, 2018
abelaVery balanced and informative review, thank you. I have skipped the Kickstarter campaign out of fear that who knows if the quality will be good, then after seeing the backers feedback bought the post Kickstarter several base layer variants plus neck warmer and beanies for me and my wife, then was so pleased with fantastic quality of the 100% Yak that bought even more! I agree that 100% Yak is more fragile but if you are careful, it works excellent. Me and my wife never had any issues, besides single little hole made by one of our dachshunds. 100% Yak is amazing! Still curious to try this variant. The stripes are an excellent match to their Yak socks I have backed on Kickstarter. I can say only the best things about PtP high standards and excellent customer service. Keep up the good work! Cheers!
TheBeardedCakeasaur
61
Nov 17, 2018
abelaI appreciate your website, reviews, and that you took the time to post this on MD. I have the beanie/neck warmer from the last run, and they are still going strong. I'd have purchased this blind, hoping to use it as a nice 2nd layer for cold weather hiking/backpacking, if it wasn't for this review. I feel that the beanie is too thin for me to be thermally efficient in colder weather, and the wind whips right through it. When paired with the neck warmer, however, as a sort of Balaclava setup, it's worked really well for me to keep my ears warm. I was worried that the sweater would be the same way, and that I'd have to always wear my 250 merino layer under it for it to work the way I wanted it. Nothing against the quality of the items, though, as mine have both held up well, and I even bought a second set for the old hag that lives with me! They've been great for around town, and at work.
ApathyCorps
13
Keyboard Club Member
Dec 8, 2018
Just wanted to throw my experience in here. I ordered a small and they run really large. The sleeves are fine, but it's very wide. I'm not a large guy (5' 8", 140lbs), but this is a pretty large sweater.
Massdrop won't help at all with exchanges. They just keep parroting their no refunds or exchanges policy for group buys at you, regardless of this being an "In Stock" and "Massdrop Made" item.
I want to like this sweater, but since wearing it makes me look like I took my dad's sweater, I'm going to have to find someone to gift it to. Definitely won't be buying another sweater just to be able to wear it.
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greatgibson
12
Dec 17, 2018
ApathyCorpsWith that return policy I guess I’ll stay away from clothes and shoes on Massdrop......
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DrScholl
2
Feb 7, 2019
Same here. I could have gone for a brown/grey one but I was put off by the stripe which I find totally ugly both in concept and color... Makes you look like the nerdy guy with the knitted-by-Mom scratchy sweater. Ok I know they're not scratchy but please no stripe ;-)
VAS007
291
Mar 21, 2020
I remember the time when Massdrop just came out, there used to be so many cool new products coming out, people talk about the company that would take orders from a bunch of people and send it to the brand, then we would get cool brand name items for cheaper! 5 years later, I only see the old run down earphones/watches/knives/sunglasses that no one ever buys anymore, the same products that just keep rotating once per year and so on. What happened to the DROP? How can one business with no new products even stay afloat? Where are the cool new brand name products? Where is the big order towards cool new items? I look at the past 500 emails from the DROP and there are the same 50 items that just keep rotating around and back there is absolutely nothing new, huh this is so disappointing sorry...!
shoddy
0
Nov 30, 2018
I have to confess Abela that I am finding your reasoning about cold weather a bit difficult to follow. Are you basically saying that it's not a softshell, or that it's not even a very warm fleece? Most of my midlayers aren't windproof and I would not expect to go out in really cold weather just wearing a jumper. Or are you saying that even with a shell on top and a base layer, you are still going to need another insulating layer?
Cardamomtea
588
Jul 7, 2019
shoddyI'm not @abela, but I think he's off adventuring right now, so I'll give you my interpretation of what he wrote. Hopefully when he has free time he'll respond to you.
I think he means that it's a light insulating layer, like the heavy pile fleece baselayers Patagonia used to sell as "expedition weight." Wind would cut right through them, but if protected from wind, they were great. Compare that to a down insulating layer/jacket like the Arc'teryx Thorium, which can be used as an insulating layer in pretty cold weather, or on its own w/ a baselayer in cool to moderately cold conditions.
If you look at the garment photos, especially the sleeve detail, you can get a good idea of the sweater's thickness, and what kind of insulation it might provide.
I have a slightly thicker cashmere sweater that I use over a baselayer and with a jacket, when it's above freezing. Below freezing I put my thorium on top of the sweater. I hate using the thorium without a wool/cashmere layer underneath... I always get a clammy feel from it.
When it's really cold (-10F to -30F), and I'm not moving much, I go REI silk baselayer, Smartwool 250 hoodie, EB cableknit cashmere turtleneck, Arc'teryx Thorium AR hoody, Patagonia down jacket (I think Fitz Roy? Or whatever it was called in 2003), and then the OR Helium as a shell, if needed.
OK I went off on a tangent, but what I'm trying to convey is my enthusiasm for wool/yak/goat products, and how versatile they are. If I didn't already have my cashmere sweater, and I was a guy, I would own this one.
RayF
22220
Oct 21, 2019
Is this thing back, or did it never leave?
Makes no difference--it is singularly unattractive (in all colors). It looks like something your grandmother would buy you for Xmas, and that you in turn, would only wear when she visited, and then only because your mother insisted you do so.
Assuming you are now an adult, living on your own, and that your grandmother is sadly no longer with us, there is absolutely no reason to expose yourself (or those you love) to this PTSD inducing, knitted-nightmare of a sweater!
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kennyglenn
17
Apr 2, 2019
Ive gotten like 3 reminders about this sweater. I just came to say its ugly AF stop sending me emails about it.
Stir
22
Mar 8, 2019
I would totally buy one of these if the color was solid, looks like great materials
SlickWilleh
15
Feb 15, 2019
No offense intended . It very much reminds me of Wesly Crushers sweater in star trek tng
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